I tried the J-10CE at LIMA in Langkawi, and yeah, I have thoughts

I spent two hot afternoons at LIMA in Langkawi, Malaysia, crawling all over the J-10CE booth. I sat in the full-scale cockpit mock-up twice. I ran a short flight on the ground trainer. I talked with two engineers, a test pilot, and a very patient tech who kept handing me wipes because my hands were slick from the heat. That island sun doesn’t play.
If you want the extended play-by-play, I’ve posted a full ride-along right here.

And you know what? The jet feels serious. Not flashy. Not cute. Serious.

First look: sharp nose, big crowd

The J-10CE looked lean on the ramp. The chin air intake has that little bump up front, and it gives the jet a hungry look. The canopy is one piece and clear, like a bubble. I could see why folks lined up for selfies. Kids in school uniforms, dads in Su-30MKM hats, even a lady selling keropok walked by and stared for a full minute. It pulled people in without trying.
For a deeper dive into the J-10 family’s development timeline and combat record, you can check the full dossier at Air-Attack.com.

Right next to the jet, AVIC set up a cockpit mock-up and a desktop trainer. That’s where I spent most of my time. Because touching the thing tells you more than a brochure ever will.

The cockpit: big screens, tight hips

Climbing the ladder felt fine, but the last step is a stretch if you’re short. The sill is thick. I swung in, dropped into the seat, and yeah, it’s snug. I’m 5'7" with wide hips. The seat hugged me like a race car. The test pilot laughed and said, “It flies like one too.” He wasn’t wrong.

  • Three color displays: clear and bright. The center one felt like the “home base.”
  • HUD up front: big and crisp. Even in noon glare, I could read it after bumping the brightness.
  • Stick in the middle, not on the side. It felt firm, with a slight bump near center. Good for fine moves.
  • Throttle on the left with two clear detents. Idle… then military power… then that click you feel when you push past. You know what that means.

Tiny gripe: the seat height wheel felt gritty, like fine sand was in there. It worked, but I had to twist hard. In that humidity, that little fight adds up.

How the trainer flew for me

I got 15 minutes on the desktop trainer. Not a full sim, but enough to judge feel. We did a takeoff, a quick turn, a radar scan demo, and a straight-in landing. No, I didn’t grease it. Yes, I lived.

  • Pitch and roll: quick but not twitchy. I could place the flight path marker where I wanted without chasing it.
  • High-alpha turn: the nose came up smooth. I expected wobble. I got a clean, steady pull.
  • Landing: the flare was easy to see on the HUD. I floated for a second because I carried a bit fast. Classic me.

The trainer tech showed me the “net” page (their word) for data links. It let me see friendly tracks tagged by number. The labels were in English, and the fonts were clear. Some menu names felt odd—like “SENSOR FUSION” hiding under “TGT PROC”—but once I found it, it made sense.

Helmet sight? They gave me a little demo. Point your head, place a cue, and the symbology follows. It’s not a game toy. It’s a tool. Still, I smiled like a kid.

The little things I noticed (that matter)

  • Vent fan in the mock-up was weak. I fogged the visor in two minutes. Langkawi’s air is thick, so this stood out.
  • The canopy latch took two hands at first. Stiff, then fine after a couple tries.
  • Rudder pedal adjust felt smooth. No grinding there. Good range if you’ve got long legs.
  • MFD glare at 1 p.m. was real. At 4 p.m., much better. The matte coating helps, but bring good sun shades.

A quick chat with the team

I asked about manuals and spares. The lead engineer said English manuals come with each jet. He also said some deep tech docs are first written in Mandarin, then translated. One pilot joked, “Sometimes the button names sound… poetic.” We all laughed, but yeah—wording matters when you’re busy at 25,000 feet.

On training, they said a fast-track syllabus runs about six to eight months for a pilot coming from a modern cockpit. Longer if the pilot jumps from older jets. That matches what I’ve heard from other programs.

How it felt next to the neighbors

LIMA had a full house. Tejas folks across one aisle. FA-50 chatter in every hall. Su-30MKM shirts everywhere. Malaysia loves big twin tails, and I get it.

  • Compared to FA-50: the J-10CE feels beefier and more “grown-up” in the nose and avionics. The FA-50 still wins on simple ground handling and polished training flow.
  • Compared to Tejas: the J-10CE cockpit felt more mature. Tejas was lighter in hand on its trainer, though—very smooth.
  • Compared to Su-30MKM: totally different path. Su-30 is a long-legged truck with a sword. J-10CE is a fencer. Quick feet. Sharp point. That speed pairs nicely with the PL-15 missile, rated for shots out to nearly 200 km, and that classic delta-wing-plus-canard layout, giving the jet reach as well as reflexes.

And if you’re wondering how other air arms are weighing similar trade-offs, take a look at Egypt’s recent deliberations—I sat in both jets and laid out why the country is leaning J-10C over its legacy F-16s in this deep-dive.

What wowed me

  • The view: that bubble canopy is no joke. You can see the world.
  • HOTAS layout: busy but smart. My thumb found what it needed fast.
  • Radar and link pages: clean, with clear symbology. Not pretty for pretty’s sake—just useful.

That presentation matters because the jet’s new Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, enhancing its target detection and tracking abilities, reportedly lets a J-10CE crew see—and shoot—before an F-16C Block 52 ever knows they’re there.

  • Nose authority: even on the trainer, I could feel the jet wants to turn.
    Out of the several fighters I’ve actually flown, only a handful felt this light on the stick—this comparison flight breaks down the raw agility rankings.

What bugged me

  • Menu quirks: a few labels felt odd in English. You learn them, but day one is slower.
  • Heat management: the mock-up fan struggled. Real jet packs real cooling, but still.
  • Fit for bigger folks: the seat is narrow. If you’ve got football shoulders, you’ll notice.
  • Ground ladder reach: last step is long. Not a deal breaker, just a daily thing.

A small moment that stuck

A Royal Malaysian Air Force tech stood next to me as I poked at the center screen. He said, “If it’s fast to fix, I like it.” The AVIC rep popped open a panel on the mock-up and showed quick-swap trays. Four screws. Slide. Click. That was neat. Not sexy. Useful.

Later, I ate nasi lemak from a paper wrap under the wing shadow and watched a school band march by. The jet sat there, nose pointed a bit high, like it was listening. Funny what you notice when you slow down.

Who this jet suits

  • Air forces that want a modern “4.5 gen” feel with strong sensors and a solid cockpit.
  • Pilots used to center-stick jets who love crisp handling.
  • Teams that can handle mixed-language docs at first, and don’t mind a short learning curve on menus.

If you’re chasing simple training pipelines and broad Western plug-ins, the FA-50 path still charms. If you want a nimble single-engine knife with real bite, the J-10CE makes a case.

My verdict after two sweaty days

I came in curious and left impressed—annoyed by a few small things, sure—but impressed. The J-10CE feels like a focused tool. It doesn’t beg. It doesn’t posture. It just does the job and asks you to keep up.

Would I fly it again on the trainer? In a heartbeat. Would I change a few cockpit labels? Also yes. Both can be true.

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